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They do usually include a ramp package though and cards that can boost Progenitus despite its protection ability
Editors Note: Felidar Guardian was banned in Pioneer on November 4, 2019
While green may have the strongest and most varied collection of ramp spells under its color umbrella, black has a decent handful of ramp cards in its repertoire
They both have the "dies to doomblade" problem in that respect
Use the mana value of the creature as it last existed on the battlefield to determine the value of X
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